{"id":92664,"date":"2023-09-08T23:37:01","date_gmt":"2023-09-08T23:37:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/stopsmokingway.com\/?p=92664"},"modified":"2023-09-08T23:37:01","modified_gmt":"2023-09-08T23:37:01","slug":"souness-and-mccoist-relive-scotland-days-and-rivalry-with-england","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stopsmokingway.com\/soccer\/souness-and-mccoist-relive-scotland-days-and-rivalry-with-england\/","title":{"rendered":"Souness and McCoist relive Scotland days and rivalry with England"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2>Graeme Souness and Ally McCoist relive Scotland days and rivalry with England in fun-packed interview&#8230; as the two nations prepare to face off once again\u00a0<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Graeme Souness and Ally McCoist regale Mail Sport with tales of their past<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>There&#8217;s plenty of banter and memories shared in their chat with Craig Hope\u00a0<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>The two will broadcast for Channel 4 when England play Scotland next Tuesday<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Graeme Souness and Ally McCoist have spent the morning laughing. Punches recalled, punchlines landed. Only, Scotland\u2019s record against England isn\u2019t that funny. Souness won once and McCoist\u2019s best was a goalless draw.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018F***ing pudding,\u2019 says Souness, of the striker he managed at Rangers. \u2018No wonder I subbed you all the time!\u2019<\/p>\n<p>That draw was at Hampden Park in 1987 and during the annual Rous Cup showdown between Scotland and England. A match report records McCoist having had an opportunity to win it.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018I have to admit, it was nae a half-chance, there\u2019s no getting away from that!\u2019 he says. \u2018It was the miss of the season, over the bar.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Souness and McCoist will be working together for Channel 4 when the Auld Enemies meet again in the fixture\u2019s 150th Anniversary Match at Hampden on Tuesday. Between them, they played for Scotland from 1974 to 1998, yet never in the same team. The end of Souness\u2019s international career marked the start of McCoist\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/1s\/2023\/09\/08\/22\/75232291-0-image-a-100_1694210239744.jpg\" height=\"548\" width=\"306\"><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/1s\/2023\/09\/08\/22\/75232289-0-image-a-101_1694210239762.jpg\" height=\"548\" width=\"306\"><\/p>\n<p>Graeme Souness and Ally McCoist recalled their days playing for Scotland in an interview with Mail Sport &#8211; though they never featured together\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/1s\/2023\/09\/08\/22\/75232141-0-image-a-102_1694210348186.jpg\" height=\"419\" width=\"634\"><\/p>\n<p>Souness was captain of the national team but bowed out before McCoistplayed for them<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/1s\/2023\/09\/08\/23\/75232259-0-image-a-103_1694210429664.jpg\" height=\"423\" width=\"634\"><\/p>\n<p>McCoist, seen here challenging Peter Shilton, was controversially left out of a couple of tournaments\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Did the latter\u2019s emergence, just before the 1986 World Cup, hasten the former\u2019s decision to retire after the tournament? \u2018Too right it did!\u2019 says Souness, although his affection for the younger man is clear, if you stick around.<\/p>\n<p>They would have been Scotland team-mates had McCoist gone to the finals in Mexico.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Fergie (Sir Alex Ferguson, then-Scotland manager) did me like a kipper,\u2019 says McCoist. \u2018I was in the plans for the World Cup. One day, I hear Big Jock Wallace (Rangers manager) giving Fergie a mouthful down the phone. He summoned me to the office, which you did once or twice yourself, Graeme.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Big Jock threw the phone at me and said, \u201cFergie wants a word, he\u2019s not taking you\u201d. Fergie says, \u201cYou\u2019re doing great, but I\u2019ve decided you\u2019ll not be in my squad. But if anyone drops out, you\u2019ll be first in\u201d. The very next morning, Kenny Dalglish pulls out, and he brings in Steve Archibald!\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Would you have taken him, Graeme? \u2018Would I f***! You had some stern competition. Archibald. Kenny. Charlie Nicholas. Frank McAvennie. Graeme Sharp. You were still too young.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>McCoist went to Italia 90 but was controversially left out at France 98. Same question, Graeme, would you have included him?<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Definitely\u2026 but not to play! Just for camaraderie, have him around the place.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>McCoist, it should be noted, has been laughing throughout.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/1s\/2023\/09\/08\/22\/75232249-0-image-m-96_1694209988689.jpg\" height=\"520\" width=\"634\"><\/p>\n<p>Alex Ferguson decided not to take McCoist to the 1986 World Cup &#8211; and even reneged on a promise to include him if someone dropped out!\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Let me tell you,\u2019 says Souness. \u2018In all the dressing rooms I was in, if you want someone to solidify that dressing room and get a winning mentality, Alistair is your man. If you want Alistair to turn up at a supporters\u2019 club at 8pm on a Tuesday, forget it! But in the dressing room, he\u2019s an 11 out of 10.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>McCoist had been around Scotland squads with Souness before making his debut in 1986. He remembers one in particular.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Big Jock Stein was manager and we were at Gleneagles. Kenny invited me down for a coffee after training. You were there, Graeme, and Big Jock was joining us. Kenny said, \u201cRight, what do you want?\u201d. I said the same as you guys, \u201cJust a cup of tea\u201d. We\u2019re all sat and Kenny comes back with the teas and coffees, and puts a pint of lager down in front of me! Big Jock was in on it, but I was mortified!\u2019<\/p>\n<p>When Souness retired from the national team after Mexico 86, he was appointed player-manager at Rangers, where McCoist was his top marksman. Their team included England stars such as Terry Butcher, Trevor Steven, Trevor Francis and Ray Wilkins \u2014 at the time of the Rous Cup \u2014 and that cross-border rivalry would serve as inspiration for domestic success. Never was that more evident than on a Friday morning.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018We had Scotland-England training games\u2026\u2019 begins Souness. \u2018I had to play for England, because I couldn\u2019t get in the Scotland side!<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Walter (Smith) was ref. We\u2019d be losing 3-1 and had played for half an hour. It was meant to be a short, sharp session. Walter says, \u201cLast minute\u201d. I\u2019d say, \u201cNo it\u2019s f***ing not!\u201d. We\u2019d play close to an hour so we could get back in the game!\u2019 Which was more competitive, that five-a-side or the Rous Cup?<\/p>\n<p>\u2018F*** me, the five-a-side!\u2019 says McCoist. \u2018You were lucky to get off the pitch with a pulse! It used to drive us insane him playing for England. I\u2019ll never forget, he put one on wee Ian Durrant\u2019s chin, and deservedly so. Durranty was giving it the old, \u201cOle, ole, ole\u201d. Graeme came in and left a beauty of a tackle on him. Durranty was like one of those Weebles, he went down and bounced back up. He put his foot on the ball and says, \u201cIs that your best?\u201d. Graeme says, \u201cAs a matter of fact, Ian, no, it\u2019s not. This is!\u201d. Bang! I would pay fortunes to watch it again. Magic.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Guilty, Graeme?<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Yep, but as you get older you must lose your strength, because he still got up! There was a mass brawl after that.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>McCoist takes over. \u2018So we\u2019re all sitting in the dressing room wondering what Graeme is going to do. He walks in and says, \u201cLads, that\u2019s exactly the spirit I\u2019m looking for!\u201d. We loved that.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/1s\/2023\/09\/08\/23\/75232075-0-image-m-108_1694210615377.jpg\" height=\"624\" width=\"634\"><\/p>\n<p>The two did cross paths when Jock Stein was in charge and took part in Scotland-England training games together\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/1s\/2023\/09\/08\/23\/75232407-0-Souness_went_on_to_player_manage_Rangers_where_McCoist_was_the_t-m-106_1694210573150.jpg\" height=\"471\" width=\"634\"><\/p>\n<p>Souness went on to player-manage Rangers, where McCoist was the top marksman\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Hand on heart, Graeme was one of the best I played with. He\u2019ll say we didn\u2019t see him at his best, but I\u2019ve never played with anyone who could dictate a game like him.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Durrant, meanwhile, was also on the receiving end when Terry Hurlock, newly signed by Souness from Millwall, was encouraged by the manager to get involved after a quiet start during an England-Scotland kickabout.<\/p>\n<p>Hurlock told me the story a few years ago. \u2018Souness stops the session, \u201cWhat the f*** have I signed here? You\u2019re allowed to touch the ball!\u201d. \u2018The ball goes to little Durrant. I fly in, \u201cWhack!\u201d. Souey stops it again, \u201cF****** easy!\u201d. I said, \u201cDon\u2019t wind me up then, you told me to get involved!\u201d.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>The pair remember Hurlock and the others from England with great warmth, but their blood runs cold as we explore the rivalry.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018We hated them, but the feeling was mutual,\u2019 says Souness. \u2018There is a theory in Britain that the Scots want to win it more than the English. That\u2019s a myth. I know. I was in a dressing room with English players like Emlyn Hughes.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018These games were intense, ferocious. My Liverpool team-mate Terry McDermott knew if I had half a chance, I would leave a bit on him. It fires up the imagination of both nations. Winning the Rous Cup meant nothing, but beating England meant everything.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>McCoist says: \u2018Graeme is spot on, it would be naive to think the Scots boys wanted it more than the English. Looking across the tunnel and seeing Terry Butcher, I can guarantee you he wanted to beat us as much as we did them.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018You say you\u2019d leave \u201ca bit\u201d on Terry Mac? I knew for a fact, if Butcher had the chance, he would be leaving \u201cplenty\u201d on me!\u2019<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/1s\/2023\/09\/08\/23\/75232499-0-image-m-110_1694210769858.jpg\" height=\"441\" width=\"634\"><\/p>\n<p>McCoist said that England players like Terry Butcher &#8216;wanted to beat us as much as we did them&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>The best of enemies is one way of describing the relationship back then. There was mutual respect and, when I ask them for their best England opponent, it says much when they don\u2019t stop at one.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Paul Gascoigne was just ridiculous,\u2019 starts McCoist. \u2018And Butcher, for showing what representing your country means to someone.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Souness says: \u2018I\u2019ll give you two as well. Kevin Keegan and Bryan Robson. Kevin was perpetual motion, a constant threat, and hated the Scots for 90 minutes.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018As did Robbo. He was always driving into your box. For me, as a sitting midfielder, I don\u2019t want to be tracking players back all the time. The ultimate warrior.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Gazza. No conversation around England and Scotland is complete without mention of his goal at Euro 96. Even though McCoist was on the pitch at Wembley, he told me over lunch before Euro 2020 of his appreciation for the volley, his Rangers team-mate having flicked the ball over Colin Hendry before smashing past Andy Goram.<\/p>\n<p>Souness has a different take. \u2018I could not appreciate it at all! Not at the time. Could the big blonde centre back have done better?\u2019<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/1s\/2023\/09\/08\/23\/75232553-0-image-a-111_1694210834613.jpg\" height=\"482\" width=\"634\"><\/p>\n<p>Souness: &#8216;Winning the Rous Cup meant nothing, but beating England meant everything&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Ah, if you\u2019ve got to feel sympathy for anyone, it\u2019s big Colin,\u2019 says McCoist. \u2018Because that video gets pulled out and shown every time.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Souness is softening. \u2018Watching it back, it\u2019s fantastic. Only someone who had supreme ability and believed he could be that cheeky, and get away with it, would ever try that. A goal we all remember.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>An England goal for which there is little sentiment is the last they scored at Hampden. Leigh Griffiths had just netted twice to give the hosts a 2-1 lead in a World Cup qualifier in 2017, when Harry Kane vollyed in a last-ditch equaliser.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018I\u2019ve spent most of my life in England,\u2019 says Souness. \u2018I\u2019m thankful for being part of the English game but, when it comes to these matches, I\u2019m only supporting Scotland. I get emotional about it.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018That Kane goal\u2026 I was so emotional afterwards. We had them. If we\u2019d won that, I might have been embarrassing on television.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>McCoist was with Souness that afternoon. \u2018When Kane\u2019s goal went in, I was on my knees. Absolutely gutted,\u2019 he says. \u2018I also did the co-comms for the game against England at Wembley during Euro 2020. It came to you, Graeme, before kick-off, and you gave a speech about what it meant to Scotland. The commentator said, \u201cWhat did you think of that, Ally?\u201d. I said, \u201cWhat did I think of it?! I\u2019m ready to march on Carlisle!\u201d.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>That strength of patriotism does not extend throughout the Souness family. \u2018My son has an England shirt with \u201cSouness\u201d on the back, which I\u2019ve told him he can never wear to a game! He\u2019s been to England matches and supports them. I\u2019d like to think for this one, he\u2019s sitting well and truly on the fence!\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Souness, too, sits on the fence as I ask him how he felt when England were beaten by Italy during the Euro 2020 final. McCoist has no such reservations.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018I\u2019m happy to say, \u201cThank f***, that was close!\u201d,\u2019 he says. \u2018We\u2019re eternally grateful for working down here and the football is brilliant. But you\u2019ve no idea how difficult it is for a Scotsman watching England do well. What makes it even worse is that the players and manager are now likeable!\u2019<\/p>\n<p>But there is also fondness for this Scotland team and boss Steve Clarke, who has the nation on the brink of Euro 2024 qualification.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018The best we\u2019ve had for a long time,\u2019 says Souness. \u2018That game at Wembley (0-0 draw), they out-footballed England. I can\u2019t think of anyone else who has done that like they did. The manager knows what he\u2019s doing. We have some very good players. We should go into this game with no inferiority complex, like we did at Wembley.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Predictions? \u2018England have better players, if you were picking a composite team,\u2019 adds Souness. \u2018But on the night, that means nothing. I think it will be close, the odd goal in it.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>McCoist remains the tartan side of the fence. \u2018John McGinn will score and Scotland will win 2-1!\u2019 If so, perhaps Souness will finally \u2018embarrass\u2019 himself on television amid the emotion of a first Scotland victory in 24 years.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Alistair, before you go, is it casual dress for the game?\u2019 asks Souness of their date on Channel 4. \u2018Yeah, smart-casual,\u2019 says McCoist. \u2018But your smart-casual will be a hundred times better than my smart-casual, that\u2019s for sure!\u2019<\/p>\n<p>One last thing, will you two have time for a game of golf while in Scotland? \u2018He used to fine me for playing golf,\u2019 says McCoist. \u2018Now, he can\u2019t wait to get me out on the course to take money off me!\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u2018We all change,\u2019 says Souness. 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